tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7100452276682801125.post6017662474197086155..comments2024-02-14T06:42:21.988-06:00Comments on Context and variation: Science Online 2011 Panel this Sunday: On the perils of blogging as a woman under a real nameKateClancyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10266484364483890008noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7100452276682801125.post-85817930510729363612011-01-12T12:29:11.363-06:002011-01-12T12:29:11.363-06:00DeetotheEmmm, you can browse my posts with the lab...DeetotheEmmm, you can browse my posts with the label "wsb" or check out my "wsb" page for more info: http://professorkateclancy.blogspot.com/search/label/wsb<br /><br />Miriam, I don't think you're an outlier, but part of the normal range of variation. I'm sure there are many other women out there who have no particular horror story to tell -- I don't have any particular horror story either, but have observed a lot of sexism directed at my female blogger colleagues. I have a few things that have happened that were definitely sexist and frustrating, but mostly when I was pseudonymous. But yes, my suspicion is that we get various degrees of attacks based on the content as well as the author.<br /><br />Dr. Free-Ride, yes, I would definitely like to chat! I've read some posts of yours where you have mentioned what it was like to be assumed male by your pseud and how things shifted when you started using your real name. I think you'll lend an important perspective. I tend to comment on others' blogs with my initials (with a link back to this blog) so that people's first response upon reading my comment is to see me as male or gender neutral. It's amazing how much more seriously I'm taken with my four initials, compared to my female-sounding pseudonym.<br /><br />And finally, Jen, I think promotion with a pseudonym in a way that is beneficial to your career would be hard, but that doesn't mean you couldn't still promote your work and be heard. I also don't think you're naive for wanting to just start out using your own name. I offered my experience -- starting out pseudonymous and then using my real name -- as an example, and one that I think worked for me. But that doesn't mean it's the only path!<br /><br />Oh, and one other thing: I think it will be important in the panel that we address intersections of sexism, racism and other oppressions. I hope, also, that in future years maybe there could be a panel that addresses some of these other issues. What does science blogging look like in a racialized society? How does that hinder authors, or does it hinder them? What are the different ways sexism and racism manifest online? And so on...KateClancyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10266484364483890008noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7100452276682801125.post-24745052527504944712011-01-11T23:11:42.756-06:002011-01-11T23:11:42.756-06:00I've been wanting/starting to write a science ...I've been wanting/starting to write a science blog for over a year and still haven't pulled the trigger for this reason. Not so much the stalking/troll aspect because pssssh...not worth the worry, but for fear of not being taken seriously. I of course love all things biology and its impacts on society, but the main motivation for blogging is as a portfolio to showcase my work and land a job. One of my (woman) professors who blogs anonymously suggested I write as a man and this bothered me. One, how can I promote myself if I use a pseudonym, and two, am I naive for thinking that'd I'd be better off learning and making mistakes as me?Jennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7100452276682801125.post-32434350802871907862011-01-11T22:58:28.520-06:002011-01-11T22:58:28.520-06:00I'm totally bummed that I won't be at this...I'm totally bummed that I won't be at this session (as I'm part of another session that meets concurrently). I've blogged pseudonymously and under my real name, and my experiences have been shaped by the fact that, under the pseud, I was regularly gendered as male by readers.<br /><br />Maybe we can chat at the hotel?Dr. Free-Ridehttp://scientopia.org/blogs/ethicsandscience/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7100452276682801125.post-53562012824236039802011-01-11T19:18:39.169-06:002011-01-11T19:18:39.169-06:00My experience seems different than many others. I&...My experience seems different than many others. I've been blogging under my real name for 3.5 years, and have never had a significant problem. I only had one minor incident that related to my gender, and that was solved simply by deleting the offending comment. Maybe it's that I mostly write about ocean science and not too much about people or society?Miriamhttp://deepseanews.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7100452276682801125.post-8875186312921324392011-01-11T14:53:52.189-06:002011-01-11T14:53:52.189-06:00Kate, I am REALLY interested in that second point,...Kate, I am REALLY interested in that second point, it's something I've noticed myself, and I am very excited to see this discussed!! Should be a fantastic panel.Scicurioushttp://scientopia.org/blogs/scicuriousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7100452276682801125.post-74704407663854300972011-01-11T14:46:43.081-06:002011-01-11T14:46:43.081-06:00What disparities in who is selected would those be...What disparities in who is selected would those be?DeetotheEmmmnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7100452276682801125.post-5179575994014423542011-01-11T14:26:37.322-06:002011-01-11T14:26:37.322-06:00Thanks so much for the comments, all! Wendy, I thi...Thanks so much for the comments, all! Wendy, I think the panel will be livestreamed because we're in Room B, one of the rooms where they're shooting video (it will be embedded here: http://scienceonline2011.com/watch/). If I'm wrong then likely audience members will livetweet it with the hashtag #scio11, and I'm sure at least some of us panelists will write their own follow-up posts on their blogs (at least, I plan to).<br /><br />Sue Ann Bowling, how cool! That sounds like a book(s) I'd like to read. And Maitri and Kim, what you say echoes what I've heard from others. (I'm particularly devastated by what you've said, Kim, and wish there was enough good in the bad for you to want to keep blogging.)KateClancyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10266484364483890008noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7100452276682801125.post-91225943693168453552011-01-11T13:22:28.486-06:002011-01-11T13:22:28.486-06:00I left ScienceBlogs (several months before the Pep...I left ScienceBlogs (several months before the Pepsi fiasco) in part because I was freaked out by the comments and e-mails I got. I'm still not sure that I want to be a science blogger any more - I just don't want to deal with the stress that comes with it.Kimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07738706550175991130noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7100452276682801125.post-30264410222707800932011-01-11T13:13:08.312-06:002011-01-11T13:13:08.312-06:00Sounds like this is going to be a great panel. As ...Sounds like this is going to be a great panel. As someone who has blogged on science and other fields, I've been on the receiving end of a double standard (latent to outright). Namely that if you're a woman, especially one who blogs under her real name, you 1) are out there for notoriety, 2) are open to / should not be offended by harassment and 3) shouldn't be taken seriously.<br /><br />I've taken some precautions like never publishing intimate contact information, my location, family details and being nothing short of professional in my comments, especially with those I don't know personally. This establishes boundaries and rules of play. I have also outright banned people after they twice break the rules of engagement, never to let them back in. Trolls, unless they are personally stalking you, look for the path of least resistance, and move on to pester other communities.<br /><br />Other than that, it's the same as having to deal with bigots and boors in real life. Give them no room whatsoever, even if the conversation is "in the interest of science" and you're accused of censorship. Let's be civilized first and then talk about civilization.Maitrihttp://vatul.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7100452276682801125.post-27924718547182958672011-01-11T12:58:09.918-06:002011-01-11T12:58:09.918-06:00I retired as an active scientist before blogs were...I retired as an active scientist before blogs were even heard of, and I blog today on a level aimed at getting bits of basic science across to the general public. But I, too would like to see a summary of this panel online.<br />(I do look at the physiology of reproduction in my science fiction--have a race where the women are fertile for a few hours every hundred years.)Sue Ann Bowlinghttp://homecomingbook.wordpress.com/http:noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7100452276682801125.post-17787208287208739242011-01-11T12:32:26.210-06:002011-01-11T12:32:26.210-06:00I cannot attend, but I would love to see minutes/t...I cannot attend, but I would love to see minutes/transcript/summary of this panel discussion.<br /><br />Another great topic for a panel discussion is On the Perils of Handing Out Your Business Card as a Woman at Scientific Conferences, followed by a workshop titled Filing Restraining Orders.wendyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01461878796047774170noreply@blogger.com